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Dima Bak

Hi! Is it possible to quantise events in blue timelines? Or to set timeline in beats not sec?
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Steven Yi
Hi Dima,

Blue's timeline is actually in beats. You can set the tempo with the
tempo editor.  On the score timeline there is a "Use Tempo" checkbox
that enables the tempo editor.  The arrow next to it expands the area
above the time bar to allow changing the tempo.

As for quantization, currently there's no dedicated feature, but you
could use a note processor on the sound layer (use the button marked
'n').  Probably the PythonProcessor would work for this.

If on the other hand, you're just talking about snapping to a grid for
soundObjects, then you can change the timeline properties using the
arrow above the right hand scrollbar up top. The arrow points left; if
you select it, it will expand a pane on the right to modify properties
for the timeline, including enabling snapping, as well as how to
display the beats (as time or as a number, and what multiple of beats
to show). Using this, you could set up a grid for every 4 beats.

There's a number of changes coming down the pipeline regarding the
timeline, and how snapping and time is configured will change a bit.
I'm looking at having meters/measures as a representation, in addition
to a real-time in seconds bar.  The latter is a little tricky due to
tempo curves, but the calculations should be alright as there's code
already there.

Hope that answers your question and if not just reply here.

Thanks!
steven


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> Hi! Is it possible to quantise events in blue timelines? Or to set timeline
> in beats not sec?
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Adam Puckett-2
twarp.c is amazing! ;)

On 2/22/12, Steven Yi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Dima,
>
> Blue's timeline is actually in beats. You can set the tempo with the
> tempo editor.  On the score timeline there is a "Use Tempo" checkbox
> that enables the tempo editor.  The arrow next to it expands the area
> above the time bar to allow changing the tempo.
>
> As for quantization, currently there's no dedicated feature, but you
> could use a note processor on the sound layer (use the button marked
> 'n').  Probably the PythonProcessor would work for this.
>
> If on the other hand, you're just talking about snapping to a grid for
> soundObjects, then you can change the timeline properties using the
> arrow above the right hand scrollbar up top. The arrow points left; if
> you select it, it will expand a pane on the right to modify properties
> for the timeline, including enabling snapping, as well as how to
> display the beats (as time or as a number, and what multiple of beats
> to show). Using this, you could set up a grid for every 4 beats.
>
> There's a number of changes coming down the pipeline regarding the
> timeline, and how snapping and time is configured will change a bit.
> I'm looking at having meters/measures as a representation, in addition
> to a real-time in seconds bar.  The latter is a little tricky due to
> tempo curves, but the calculations should be alright as there's code
> already there.
>
> Hope that answers your question and if not just reply here.
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi! Is it possible to quantise events in blue timelines? Or to set
>> timeline
>> in beats not sec?
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Erik de Castro Lopo-10
Adam Puckett wrote:

> twarp.c is amazing! ;)

Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?

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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Adam Puckett-2
It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.

On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Adam Puckett wrote:
>
>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>
> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>
> Erik
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Steven Yi
blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
time ago:

http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java

This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows per-object
tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).

The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.

steven

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
> what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>
> On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Adam Puckett wrote:
>>
>>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>>
>> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>>
>> Erik
>> --
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>> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Dima Bak
Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this dont make changes. I need to press enter key manually.

2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>
blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
time ago:

http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java

This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows per-object
tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).

The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.

steven

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
> what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>
> On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Adam Puckett wrote:
>>
>>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>>
>> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>>
>> Erik
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Erik de Castro Lopo
>> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>>
>>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Dima Bak
OMG. Peace of shit again. Steve! Did you ever see normal sequencer? How to copy blocks objects in timeline?

2012/2/23 Dima Bak <[hidden email]>
Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this dont make changes. I need to press enter key manually.


2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>
blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
time ago:

http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java

This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows per-object
tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).

The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.

steven

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
> what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>
> On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Adam Puckett wrote:
>>
>>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>>
>> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>>
>> Erik
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Erik de Castro Lopo
>> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>>
>>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Steven Yi
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Hi Dima,

This was done on purpose when I implemented this years ago.  As
mentioned, I am currently planning a lot of changes for the timeline
so this will probably get changed as well. For the time being, I
probably won't change it as it'll get redone anyways as part of the
larger work.

steven

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this dont make
> changes. I need to press enter key manually.
>
>
> 2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>
>>
>> blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
>> essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
>> ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
>> before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
>> blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
>> time ago:
>>
>>
>> http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java
>>
>> This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
>> beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
>> This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows per-object
>> tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).
>>
>> The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
>> > what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>> >
>> > On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Adam Puckett wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>> >>
>> >> Erik
>> >> --
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Erik de Castro Lopo
>> >> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Steven Yi
In reply to this post by Dima Bak
Hi Dima,

If your goal with your message was to be offensive, then you have
succeeded.  If on the other hand you wanted to have a discussion about
something you see in blue that you would prefer to have differently,
then your use of foul language and insults has failed you.

Blue's object copying is probably the fastest gesture I'm aware of,
which is, after selecting soundObjects, you can press ctrl-c (or
command-c, on mac), then while holding down ctrl- (or command-), you
click where you want to paste your objects. If you want to copy by
dragging, when you have objects selected, press ctrl- (or command-),
press the mouse down on one of the selected objects, then drag.  This
will make duplicates of the soundObjects while you drag.

steven

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OMG. Peace of shit again. Steve! Did you ever see normal sequencer? How to
> copy blocks objects in timeline?
>
>
> 2012/2/23 Dima Bak <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this dont
>> make changes. I need to press enter key manually.
>>
>>
>> 2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
>>> essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
>>> ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
>>> before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
>>> blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
>>> time ago:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java
>>>
>>> This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
>>> beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
>>> This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows per-object
>>> tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).
>>>
>>> The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's probably
>>> > what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>>> >
>>> > On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >> Adam Puckett wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>>> >>
>>> >> Erik
>>> >> --
>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> Erik de Castro Lopo
>>> >> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>>> >>
>>> >>
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Steven and the other experts on this list are absolutely amazing. They do loads and loads of brilliant work with no other payment than our gratitude and enthusiastic cheers. They respond to questions and requests from the entire user group in an impressively quick, friendly and thorough manner, and even when met with insults and offensive language they provide polite answers.

I'm impressed!

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From: Steven Yi [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:56 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Time line in blue and quantisation.

Hi Dima,

If your goal with your message was to be offensive, then you have succeeded.  If on the other hand you wanted to have a discussion about something you see in blue that you would prefer to have differently, then your use of foul language and insults has failed you.

Blue's object copying is probably the fastest gesture I'm aware of, which is, after selecting soundObjects, you can press ctrl-c (or command-c, on mac), then while holding down ctrl- (or command-), you click where you want to paste your objects. If you want to copy by dragging, when you have objects selected, press ctrl- (or command-), press the mouse down on one of the selected objects, then drag.  This will make duplicates of the soundObjects while you drag.

steven

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OMG. Peace of shit again. Steve! Did you ever see normal sequencer?
> How to copy blocks objects in timeline?
>
>
> 2012/2/23 Dima Bak <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this
>> dont make changes. I need to press enter key manually.
>>
>>
>> 2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
>>> essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
>>> ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
>>> before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
>>> blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
>>> time ago:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385
>>> dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java
>>>
>>> This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
>>> beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
>>> This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows
>>> per-object tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).
>>>
>>> The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's
>>> > probably what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.
>>> >
>>> > On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >> Adam Puckett wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> twarp.c is amazing! ;)
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?
>>> >>
>>> >> Erik
>>> >> --
>>> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> -----
>>> >> Erik de Castro Lopo
>>> >> http://www.mega-nerd.com/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

stephane boussuge-4
I am absolutely shocked by the fact that someone is able to speak in terms insulting anyone on this list and I am outraged that we can talk like that to Steven in particular who is a person with a devotion and a remarkable kindness.

stf


Le 23 févr. 2012 à 11:20, Sigurd Saue a écrit :

Steven and the other experts on this list are absolutely amazing. They do loads and loads of brilliant work with no other payment than our gratitude and enthusiastic cheers. They respond to questions and requests from the entire user group in an impressively quick, friendly and thorough manner, and even when met with insults and offensive language they provide polite answers.

I'm impressed!

Sigurd

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Yi [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:56 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Time line in blue and quantisation.

Hi Dima,

If your goal with your message was to be offensive, then you have succeeded.  If on the other hand you wanted to have a discussion about something you see in blue that you would prefer to have differently, then your use of foul language and insults has failed you.

Blue's object copying is probably the fastest gesture I'm aware of, which is, after selecting soundObjects, you can press ctrl-c (or command-c, on mac), then while holding down ctrl- (or command-), you click where you want to paste your objects. If you want to copy by dragging, when you have objects selected, press ctrl- (or command-), press the mouse down on one of the selected objects, then drag.  This will make duplicates of the soundObjects while you drag.

steven

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:
OMG. Peace of shit again. Steve! Did you ever see normal sequencer?
How to copy blocks objects in timeline?


2012/2/23 Dima Bak <[hidden email]>

Bug. When i change Time Display and focus not on input value this
dont make changes. I need to press enter key manually.


2012/2/23 Steven Yi <[hidden email]>

blue's tempo editor currently generates a t-statement, which
essentially delegates to Csound (via twarp.c).  When Csound 6 is
ready, blue will likely change to handling score time manipulations
before sending to Csound.  There already is a TempoMapper class in
blue, based on Python code that Istvan Varga helped me with a long
time ago:


http://bluemusic.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/bluemusic/blue/file/171385
dc2945/blue-core/src/blue/noteProcessor/TempoMapper.java

This takes a t-statement style string, and allows to apply to map
beats to seconds, and seconds to beats, depending on the t-statement.
This is used by blue's TimeWarp noteProcessor, which allows
per-object tempo processing (or can be applied to an entire soundLayer).

The code in TempoMapper may be easier to reuse that twarp.c code.

steven

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Adam Puckett
<[hidden email]>
wrote:
It's the code that warps the tempo of a Csound score. It's
probably what Steven was talking about when he mentioned the tempo code.

On 2/22/12, Erik de Castro Lopo <[hidden email]> wrote:
Adam Puckett wrote:

twarp.c is amazing! ;)

Sorry, what is twarp.c and how is it relevant to this discussion?

Erik
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Dima Bak
Steve! I agree to supervise your work on the Blue project. Together we can make Blue much better. But now Blue is like the Chinese counterfeiting sequencer. Here is the similar product http://bit.ly/zHrYpj
Sorry for brute language, Steve. Do not be afraid to take a step toward the unsolved problems! You do not have to be a loser musician. Do you agree to accept me as a project manager?

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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

luis jure

on 2012-02-23 at 14:49 Dima Bak wrote:

>Steve! I agree to supervise your work on the Blue project. Together we can
>make Blue much better. But now Blue is like the Chinese counterfeiting
>sequencer. Here is the similar product http://bit.ly/zHrYpj
>Sorry for brute language, Steve. Do not be afraid to take a step toward
>the unsolved problems! You do not have to be a loser musician. Do you
>agree to accept me as a project manager?
>


no offense intended, honestly, but i don't think this person is a case of
someone just being rude. i seriously think he's mentally disturbed, and
should be under treatment (probably is).


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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Michael Gogins-2
I don't think it's our job to worry about the causes of offensive
behavior from people we do not know personally. I recommend, however,
that absent an apology, Dima Bak should simply be removed from the
list.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:07 AM, luis jure <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> on 2012-02-23 at 14:49 Dima Bak wrote:
>
>>Steve! I agree to supervise your work on the Blue project. Together we can
>>make Blue much better. But now Blue is like the Chinese counterfeiting
>>sequencer. Here is the similar product http://bit.ly/zHrYpj
>>Sorry for brute language, Steve. Do not be afraid to take a step toward
>>the unsolved problems! You do not have to be a loser musician. Do you
>>agree to accept me as a project manager?
>>
>
>
> no offense intended, honestly, but i don't think this person is a case of
> someone just being rude. i seriously think he's mentally disturbed, and
> should be under treatment (probably is).
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

rory walsh
+1

On 23 February 2012 13:11, Michael Gogins <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I don't think it's our job to worry about the causes of offensive
> behavior from people we do not know personally. I recommend, however,
> that absent an apology, Dima Bak should simply be removed from the
> list.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:07 AM, luis jure <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> on 2012-02-23 at 14:49 Dima Bak wrote:
>>
>>>Steve! I agree to supervise your work on the Blue project. Together we can
>>>make Blue much better. But now Blue is like the Chinese counterfeiting
>>>sequencer. Here is the similar product http://bit.ly/zHrYpj
>>>Sorry for brute language, Steve. Do not be afraid to take a step toward
>>>the unsolved problems! You do not have to be a loser musician. Do you
>>>agree to accept me as a project manager?
>>>
>>
>>
>> no offense intended, honestly, but i don't think this person is a case of
>> someone just being rude. i seriously think he's mentally disturbed, and
>> should be under treatment (probably is).
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

Steven Yi
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No thanks.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Dima Bak <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Steve! I agree to supervise your work on the Blue project. Together we can
> make Blue much better. But now Blue is like the Chinese counterfeiting
> sequencer. Here is the similar product http://bit.ly/zHrYpj
> Sorry for brute language, Steve. Do not be afraid to take a step toward the
> unsolved problems! You do not have to be a loser musician. Do you agree to
> accept me as a project manager?
>
>
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>


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Re: Time line in blue and quantisation.

luis jure
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on 2012-02-23 at 08:11 Michael Gogins wrote:

>I don't think it's our job to worry about the causes of offensive
>behavior from people we do not know personally. I recommend, however,
>that absent an apology, Dima Bak should simply be removed from the
>list.

i agree with all of the above (although i wouldn't expect much of an
apology, i'm still under the impression this person is sick)



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++SPAM++ Broken/hacked link on Csounds.com

Claus Sohn Andersen
Hello, just letting those capable of doing something about it know;

Not sure if this is related to the recent posts reg. anomalies on the site, but when clicking the "download Csound"-link in the top menu, I get redirected to the link below, which I'm pretty sure isn't right.. :)



When mousing over the link, it appears correct. I'm using OSX 10.6.8 and Google Chrome 17.0.963.56 (latest version). 
I discovered this while reinstalling all my software after a clean reinstall of OSX, so it's definately not some buffered version of the page I'm looking at.

Claus


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++SPAM++ Re: [Csnd] ++SPAM++ Broken/hacked link on Csounds.com

jclements

Thank you Claus.  We are looking into this issue and your feedback is very helpful.

Cheers

John

On Feb 23, 2012 9:06 AM, "Claus Sohn Andersen" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello, just letting those capable of doing something about it know;

Not sure if this is related to the recent posts reg. anomalies on the site, but when clicking the "download Csound"-link in the top menu, I get redirected to the link below, which I'm pretty sure isn't right.. :)



When mousing over the link, it appears correct. I'm using OSX 10.6.8 and Google Chrome 17.0.963.56 (latest version). 
I discovered this while reinstalling all my software after a clean reinstall of OSX, so it's definately not some buffered version of the page I'm looking at.

Claus


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