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Worrall, David

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

 

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21) 

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>> import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

    _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

    return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

    __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

  Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

  Reason: image not found

 

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

 

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

 

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

 

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

 

Many thanks,

David

 

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

 

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Victor Lazzarini-2
We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?


Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

 

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21) 

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>> import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

    _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

    return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

    __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

  Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

  Reason: image not found

 

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

 

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

 

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

 

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

 

Many thanks,

David

 

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

 

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Worrall, David

Hi Victor,

I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.

(I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.

I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊


I hope you’re well,

 

David

 

 

 

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

 

We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?

 

 

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland


On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <
[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

 

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21) 

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>> import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

    _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

    return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

    __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

  Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

  Reason: image not found

 

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

 

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

 

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

 

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

 

Many thanks,

David

 

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

 

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Victor Lazzarini-2
yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
years.

========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Victor,
>
> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
>
> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
>
> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
>
>
> I hope you’re well,
>
>  
>
> David
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ---
>
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>
> Columbia College Chicago
>
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>
>  
>
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>
>  
>
> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Victor Lazzarini
>
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>
> Maynooth University
>
> Ireland
>
>
> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello all!,
>
> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
>
>  
>
> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
>
> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
>
> Result: import error
>
> Exception report:
>
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
>
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
>
> /usr/bin/python
>
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
>
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
>
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
>
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>
> >>> import csnd6
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>
>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>
>     _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>
>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>
>     return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>
>     __import__(name)
>
> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>
>   Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>
>   Reason: image not found
>
>  
>
> Here’s the offending linked path:
>
> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
>
>  
>
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
>
> total 4792
>
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
>
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
>
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
>
>  
>
> This dynlib has been installed:
>
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>
>  
>
> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>
> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
>
>  
>
> Many thanks,
>
> David
>
>  
>
> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
>
>  
>
> ---
>
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>
> Columbia College Chicago
>
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>
>  
>

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Worrall, David

I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:

Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…

If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.

 

My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.

 

Thanks for your time…

David

(I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).

 

 

 

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

 

fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many

years.

 

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

 

On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Victor,

I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.

(I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.

I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊

I hope you’re well,

  

David

  

  

  

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

  

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

  

We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?

  

  

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

  

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>> import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

     _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

     return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

     __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

   Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

   Reason: image not found

  

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

  

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

  

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

  

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

  

Many thanks,

David

  

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

  

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

  

 

 

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Victor Lazzarini-2
I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am
looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:
> Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…
> If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.
>  
> My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.
>  
> Thanks for your time…
> David
> (I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).
>  
>  
>  
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>  
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>  
> yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
> fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
> years.
>  
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>  
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Victor,
> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
> I hope you’re well,
>  
> David
>  
>  
>  
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>  
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>  
> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
>  
>  
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello all!,
> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
>  
> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
> Result: import error
> Exception report:
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
> /usr/bin/python
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import csnd6
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>      _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>      return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>    File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>      __import__(name)
> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>    Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>    Reason: image not found
>  
> Here’s the offending linked path:
> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
>  
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
> total 4792
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
>  
> This dynlib has been installed:
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>  
> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
>  
> Many thanks,
> David
>  
> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
>  
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

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Victor Lazzarini-2
Well, this is very strange. I noticed I had some development installation of the the Python modules in
$HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module
without any problems:

MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python
Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)
[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import csnd6
>>> quit()

I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.

Check if this rings any bells for you.

========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am
> looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
>> On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:
>> Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…
>> If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.
>>
>> My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.
>>
>> Thanks for your time…
>> David
>> (I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>>
>> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>>
>> yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
>> fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
>> years.
>>
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>
>> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Victor,
>> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
>> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
>> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
>> I hope you’re well,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>>
>> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>>
>> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
>>
>>
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello all!,
>> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
>>
>> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
>> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
>> Result: import error
>> Exception report:
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
>> /usr/bin/python
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
>> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>> import csnd6
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>>     _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>>     return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>>     __import__(name)
>> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>>   Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>>   Reason: image not found
>>
>> Here’s the offending linked path:
>> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
>>
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
>> total 4792
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
>>
>> This dynlib has been installed:
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>>
>> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> David
>>
>> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
>>
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>

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Worrall, David

I don’t have a $HOME python library, so it didn’t sole it for me :-(

I’ll check this on a 2nd machine I tried to run the installer on as well.

 

@d

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

 

$HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module

without any problems:

 

MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

import csnd6

quit()

 

I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.

 

Check if this rings any bells for you.

 

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

 

On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am

looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:

Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…

If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.

My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.

Thanks for your time…

David

(I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works

fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many

years.

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Victor,

I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.

(I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.

I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊

I hope you’re well,

David

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

     _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

     return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

     __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

   Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

   Reason: image not found

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

Many thanks,

David

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

 

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Victor Lazzarini-2
And even more strangely, the python.org python fails to find the modules now, even though the
apple one does.

========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 22:07, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I don’t have a $HOME python library, so it didn’t sole it for me :-(
> I’ll check this on a 2nd machine I tried to run the installer on as well.
>  
> @d
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>  
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>  
> Well, this is very strange. I noticed I had some development installation of the the Python modules in
> $HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module
> without any problems:
>  
> MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> import csnd6
> quit()
>  
> I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.
>  
> Check if this rings any bells for you.
>  
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>  
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am
> looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:
> Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…
> If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.
> My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.
> Thanks for your time…
> David
> (I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
> yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
> fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
> years.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Victor,
> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
> I hope you’re well,
> David
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello all!,
> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
> Result: import error
> Exception report:
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
> /usr/bin/python
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> import csnd6
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>      _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>      return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>    File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>      __import__(name)
> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>    Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>    Reason: image not found
> Here’s the offending linked path:
> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
> total 4792
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
> This dynlib has been installed:
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
> Many thanks,
> David
> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Victor Lazzarini-2
But python3 has no problem finding ctcsound...
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 22:16, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> And even more strangely, the python.org python fails to find the modules now, even though the
> apple one does.
>
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
>> On 23 May 2018, at 22:07, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t have a $HOME python library, so it didn’t sole it for me :-(
>> I’ll check this on a 2nd machine I tried to run the installer on as well.
>>
>> @d
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>>
>> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>>
>> Well, this is very strange. I noticed I had some development installation of the the Python modules in
>> $HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module
>> without any problems:
>>
>> MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python
>> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)
>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>> import csnd6
>> quit()
>>
>> I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.
>>
>> Check if this rings any bells for you.
>>
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>
>> On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am
>> looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>> On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:
>> Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…
>> If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.
>> My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.
>> Thanks for your time…
>> David
>> (I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>> yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
>> fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
>> years.
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Victor,
>> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
>> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
>> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
>> I hope you’re well,
>> David
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello all!,
>> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
>> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
>> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
>> Result: import error
>> Exception report:
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
>> /usr/bin/python
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
>> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>> import csnd6
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>>     _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>>   File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>>     return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>>     __import__(name)
>> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>>   Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>>   Reason: image not found
>> Here’s the offending linked path:
>> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
>> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
>> total 4792
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
>> This dynlib has been installed:
>> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
>> Many thanks,
>> David
>> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
>> ---
>> Prof David Worrall, PhD
>> Audio Arts and Acoustics
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
>> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
>> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
>> Wikipedia: David Worrall
>> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
>> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Worrall, David
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Well I’m glad it is not just my stupidity :-)

I also checked.bash_profile (looking for an $OPCODE6DIR64 conflict) to see if there is anything funny going on there, without a result.

 

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Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

 

apple one does.

 

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

 

On 23 May 2018, at 22:07, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

I don’t have a $HOME python library, so it didn’t sole it for me :-(

I’ll check this on a 2nd machine I tried to run the installer on as well.

  

@d

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

  

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

  

Well, this is very strange. I noticed I had some development installation of the the Python modules in

$HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module

without any problems:

  

MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

import csnd6

quit()

  

I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.

  

Check if this rings any bells for you.

  

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

  

On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am

looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:

Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…

If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.

My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.

Thanks for your time…

David

(I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works

fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many

years.

========================

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,

Maynooth University,

Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland

Tel: 00 353 7086936

Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Victor,

I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.

(I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.

I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊

I hope you’re well,

David

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>

Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>

Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all!,

(I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(

I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:

latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)

Result: import error

Exception report:

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python

/usr/bin/python

C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python

Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)

[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

import csnd6

Traceback (most recent call last):

    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>

    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>

      _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()

    File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper

      return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')

    File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module

      __import__(name)

ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

    Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so

    Reason: image not found

Here’s the offending linked path:

/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/

total 4792

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py

This dynlib has been installed:

-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib

Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?

Many thanks,

David

PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.

---

Prof David Worrall, PhD

Audio Arts and Acoustics

Columbia College Chicago

33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N

Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605

Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427

Wikipedia: David Worrall

Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

 

 

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Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build

Victor Lazzarini-2
So, for some reason python.org python (2.7.15) cannot find any packages installed in
site-packages. If we point the PYTHONPATH to that directory, then it finds them alright
and they get loaded.

Apple python works, so I should expect it to work there too. The library that does not
seem to be found has a symlink in /usr/local/lib/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib which should be
enough for it to be located.

This is on a 10.13.4 mac.

========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 23 May 2018, at 22:21, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well I’m glad it is not just my stupidity :-)
> I also checked.bash_profile (looking for an $OPCODE6DIR64 conflict) to see if there is anything funny going on there, without a result.
>  
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>  
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>  
> And even more strangely, the python.org python fails to find the modules now, even though the
> apple one does.
>  
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>  
> On 23 May 2018, at 22:07, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I don’t have a $HOME python library, so it didn’t sole it for me :-(
> I’ll check this on a 2nd machine I tried to run the installer on as well.
>  
> @d
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
>  
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
>  
> Well, this is very strange. I noticed I had some development installation of the the Python modules in
> $HOME/Library/Python/…  so I deleted that directory completely. Now Apple Python loads the module
> without any problems:
>  
> MacBook-Pro:~ victor$ /usr/bin/python
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct  6 2017, 22:29:07)
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> import csnd6
> quit()
>  
> I still have problems with ctcsound and apple python, but at least csnd6 loads.
>  
> Check if this rings any bells for you.
>  
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>  
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:42, Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I think the python.org could be recommended anyway, since it’s four subversions ahead of the apple supplied one. I am
> looking at a solution here for the apple python and I’ll see if I can sort it.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:32, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I understand – personally I use the Anaconda python and have had to build my own csound from sources for it:
> Haven’t done it for a couple of years though…
> If the problem proves difficult, I can recommend workshop participants use the python.org python – especially if that download version works on all platforms.
> My first preference is to use the Anaconda framework but when I tried last time, the csound.dmg would not install with it.
> Thanks for your time…
> David
> (I’ve been teaching with csound 6.08 & the OSX python 7.7 for the last year with no problems: solid as a rock, though I bits are deprecating).
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
> yes, I am seeing the same thing. I have not noticed this before because everything works
> fine with python.org python and I have not used the python supplied by Apple for many
> years.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> On 23 May 2018, at 21:15, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Victor,
> I tried to import ctcsound, with the same outcome.
> (I’m yet to find documentation on ctcsound – I checked the mail lists; also for this problem) without success, at this point in time.
> I’m guessing I can piece something together from the API pages on csounds.com, but without a successful import, that is mute 😊
> I hope you’re well,
> David
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
> From: Csound-developers <[hidden email]> on behalf of Victor Lazzarini <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: Csound-developers <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd-dev] python import problem of build
> We’ll check that, bu also why don’t you try ctcsound instead of csnd6?
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> On 23 May 2018, at 20:53, Worrall, David <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello all!,
> (I’m back again, after a couple of years of admin hell,  so I’m a bit behind the csound times… :-(
> I’m about to run another python/csound workshop for ICAD, so I tried to do a bog-standard install (OSX) of the csound:
> latest dmg (6.11.0) in order to access it via the OS’s bog standard python (2.7.10)
> Result: import error
> Exception report:
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ cd ~
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ which python
> /usr/bin/python
> C02S424ZG8WN2:~ davidworrall$ python
> Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 23 2015, 19:19:21)
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.5)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> import csnd6
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>     File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>     File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 17, in <module>
>       _csnd6 = swig_import_helper()
>     File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/csnd6.py", line 16, in swig_import_helper
>       return importlib.import_module('_csnd6')
>     File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
>       __import__(name)
> ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so, 2): Library not loaded: @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
>     Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so
>     Reason: image not found
> Here’s the offending linked path:
> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/_csnd6.so -> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so
> C02S424ZG8WN2:Python davidworrall$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Python/Current/
> total 4792
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  2132108 May 11 04:02 _csnd6.so
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   197302 May 11 04:02 csnd6.py
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel   115138 May 11 04:02 ctcsound.py
> This dynlib has been installed:
> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root  wheel  453436 May 11 04:02 /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
> I’m guessing  that, following installation, @rpath/libcsnd6.6.0.dylib
> Does not point to this. Is that analysis correct or is the likely to be something else?
> Many thanks,
> David
> PS installation of 10.6.8 works fine.
> ---
> Prof David Worrall, PhD
> Audio Arts and Acoustics
> Columbia College Chicago
> 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> Wikipedia: David Worrall
> Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org