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[Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

luis antunes pena-4
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Arthur Hunkins
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.

I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.

Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Oeyvind Brandtsegg-2
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Hooray. That was intense and really really captivating. Thanks!

On Jan 30, 2018 17:48, "luis antunes pena" <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

kghongaku
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awesome. csd please!

On 01/30/2018 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena wrote:

> https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit
>
> Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand
> the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves
> each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency
> deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation
> with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file.
> Hope you enjoy.
> Best,
> Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Pablo Frank
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First of all: the composition was made 100% with csound so the [OT] is wrong.

Second: to post a work composed fully with csound is useless without the .csd file. So please post it. Thanks in advance.




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https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Bernt Isak Wærstad
Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or infrequent users of the this list.

Of course it's interesting to see how it was made, but this mesmerising piece of music was far from useless without seeing the code. If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. You can ask for it nicely (as others have) instead of demanding it like it's in the csound lists policy that you shouldn't post music without accompinying code.

On 30 January 2018 at 23:59, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

First of all: the composition was made 100% with csound so the [OT] is wrong.

Second: to post a work composed fully with csound is useless without the .csd file. So please post it. Thanks in advance.




From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of luis antunes pena <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis
 
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Pablo Frank

"Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd?"   <------ I was not precise. I correct the statement: "to post a work composed fully with csound without the .csd file is useless IN A FORUM FOR CSOUND USERS AND DEVELOPERS, where they main matters are the learning, use and development of the language."



Of course it's interesting to see how it was made,"  <----- It's NOT interesting, but ESSENTIAL. Without the .csd file we have no clue about how was it made, and even having some clue/hint, it's not enough for anything concrete.


"If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. "  <---- I can get, but it's not related to csound.






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Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or infrequent users of the this list.

Of course it's interesting to see how it was made, but this mesmerising piece of music was far from useless without seeing the code. If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. You can ask for it nicely (as others have) instead of demanding it like it's in the csound lists policy that you shouldn't post music without accompinying code.

On 30 January 2018 at 23:59, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

First of all: the composition was made 100% with csound so the [OT] is wrong.

Second: to post a work composed fully with csound is useless without the .csd file. So please post it. Thanks in advance.




From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of luis antunes pena <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis
 
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

mskala
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Bernt Isak Wærstad wrote:
> Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's
> .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or infrequent
> users of the this list.

He did it to me on a posting that did include the .csd, apparently by
reflex without having read the posting.  That sure didn't make me feel he
was interested in my music as anything but an excuse to push his own
agenda, and in fact (though this would be unfortunate for innocent
bystanders) I seriously considered responding with "The .csd was posted,
but since you clearly didn't care enough to notice that before making your
demand, I've taken it down."

I see it as legitimate to request a .csd for a piece of music if one has a
specific interest in it for oneself - after listening to the piece and
reading any notes that come with it.  But I also think it's legitimate for
an artist to choose not to share the source code when sharing the music;
"no" is a reasonable answer to such a request.  And I think it's
inappropriate to agitate for a policy of "all music made with Csound must
also come with shared source code" on behalf of non-specific third parties
when one isn't actually reading that source code oneself.

Consider "stage magic is useless without an explanation of how it's done"
- or many other art forms.  With very much of music it's not possible to
share anything in the nature of source code even in principle.  Scores
don't always exist and when they do they aren't enough to recreate
performances.  The fact that "source code" exists at all with Csound,
shouldn't equate to a requirement or expectation that it will always be
shared.  And what about Csound-generated music for which the artist owns
the .csd and the audio output but can't legally share required sample
libraries for others to run that source code, because of having
commercially licensed the samples - as is the case with some of my own
music?  (for example, http://audio.northcoastsynthesis.com/index.php?t=whose_is_the_world )

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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Bernt Isak Wærstad
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On 31 January 2018 at 00:44, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

"Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd?"   <------ I was not precise. I correct the statement: "to post a work composed fully with csound without the .csd file is useless IN A FORUM FOR CSOUND USERS AND DEVELOPERS, where they main matters are the learning, use and development of the language."


It's not the lack of precision in your message, it's the message itself. This is a community, so it's not up to you alone to define what matters most this mailing list - people are on this list for a variety of reasons, not only to look at .csd's. And also - how is a piece of music written in Csound not part of learning, use and development of the language? Csound is a system for making music, so sharing music made with this system must surely belong "IN A FORUM FOR CSOUND USERS AND DEVELOPERS". I wish for even more Csound or Csound-related music on this list, with or without .csd files. After all - what would be the point of having Csound if we weren't making music with it?
 


Of course it's interesting to see how it was made,"  <----- It's NOT interesting, but ESSENTIAL. Without the .csd file we have no clue about how was it made, and even having some clue/hint, it's not enough for anything concrete.


First of all, he said that his "...instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency", so if you have NO CLUE what's going on, then I can't understand how a .csd file would do you any good either.


"If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. "  <---- I can get, but it's not related to csound.


I was not precise either: If you can't get anything Csound related out of listening to piece written in Csound without watching the code, then it's your problem. Just delete the e-mail and move on.
 






From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of Bernt Isak Wærstad <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis
 
Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or infrequent users of the this list.

Of course it's interesting to see how it was made, but this mesmerising piece of music was far from useless without seeing the code. If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. You can ask for it nicely (as others have) instead of demanding it like it's in the csound lists policy that you shouldn't post music without accompinying code.

On 30 January 2018 at 23:59, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

First of all: the composition was made 100% with csound so the [OT] is wrong.

Second: to post a work composed fully with csound is useless without the .csd file. So please post it. Thanks in advance.




From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of luis antunes pena <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:48 PM
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Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis
 
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Tarmo Johannes-3
Hi,

I agree with Bernt completely that being supportive and polite is the unwritten code keeping up this list and the community. Pablo, your passionate interest to Csound is also very encourageing but indeed, your word vhoice may trigger negative feelings. Let's try to avoid such very little Csound related discussions in the future...

And thanks and congratulations, Luis!

Tarmo


31.01.2018 2:53 kirjutas kuupäeval "Bernt Isak Wærstad" <[hidden email]>:
On 31 January 2018 at 00:44, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

"Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd?"   <------ I was not precise. I correct the statement: "to post a work composed fully with csound without the .csd file is useless IN A FORUM FOR CSOUND USERS AND DEVELOPERS, where they main matters are the learning, use and development of the language."


It's not the lack of precision in your message, it's the message itself. This is a community, so it's not up to you alone to define what matters most this mailing list - people are on this list for a variety of reasons, not only to look at .csd's. And also - how is a piece of music written in Csound not part of learning, use and development of the language? Csound is a system for making music, so sharing music made with this system must surely belong "IN A FORUM FOR CSOUND USERS AND DEVELOPERS". I wish for even more Csound or Csound-related music on this list, with or without .csd files. After all - what would be the point of having Csound if we weren't making music with it?
 


Of course it's interesting to see how it was made,"  <----- It's NOT interesting, but ESSENTIAL. Without the .csd file we have no clue about how was it made, and even having some clue/hint, it's not enough for anything concrete.


First of all, he said that his "...instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency", so if you have NO CLUE what's going on, then I can't understand how a .csd file would do you any good either.


"If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. "  <---- I can get, but it's not related to csound.


I was not precise either: If you can't get anything Csound related out of listening to piece written in Csound without watching the code, then it's your problem. Just delete the e-mail and move on.
 






From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of Bernt Isak Wærstad <[hidden email]>
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Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless without it's .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or infrequent users of the this list.

Of course it's interesting to see how it was made, but this mesmerising piece of music was far from useless without seeing the code. If you can't get anything out of listening to the piece without watching the code, then it's your problem. You can ask for it nicely (as others have) instead of demanding it like it's in the csound lists policy that you shouldn't post music without accompinying code.

On 30 January 2018 at 23:59, Pablo Frank <[hidden email]> wrote:

First of all: the composition was made 100% with csound so the [OT] is wrong.

Second: to post a work composed fully with csound is useless without the .csd file. So please post it. Thanks in advance.




From: A discussion list for users of Csound <[hidden email]> on behalf of luis antunes pena <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:48 PM
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Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis
 
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

luis antunes pena-4
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Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís



Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.

I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.

Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

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Just to say my wife and I are appreciating the "Whose is the world?" piece, with or without the csd level.  Thanks

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On Jan 30, 2018, 23:47, at 23:47, [hidden email] wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Bernt Isak Wærstad wrote:
>> Could you please stop claiming that posting a piece is useless
>without it's
>> .csd? I think it's quite rude and not very inviting for new or
>infrequent
>> users of the this list.
>
>He did it to me on a posting that did include the .csd, apparently by
>reflex without having read the posting.  That sure didn't make me feel
>he
>was interested in my music as anything but an excuse to push his own
>agenda, and in fact (though this would be unfortunate for innocent
>bystanders) I seriously considered responding with "The .csd was
>posted,
>but since you clearly didn't care enough to notice that before making
>your
>demand, I've taken it down."
>
>I see it as legitimate to request a .csd for a piece of music if one
>has a
>specific interest in it for oneself - after listening to the piece and
>reading any notes that come with it.  But I also think it's legitimate
>for
>an artist to choose not to share the source code when sharing the
>music;
>"no" is a reasonable answer to such a request.  And I think it's
>inappropriate to agitate for a policy of "all music made with Csound
>must
>also come with shared source code" on behalf of non-specific third
>parties
>when one isn't actually reading that source code oneself.
>
>Consider "stage magic is useless without an explanation of how it's
>done"
>- or many other art forms.  With very much of music it's not possible
>to
>share anything in the nature of source code even in principle.  Scores
>don't always exist and when they do they aren't enough to recreate
>performances.  The fact that "source code" exists at all with Csound,
>shouldn't equate to a requirement or expectation that it will always be
>shared.  And what about Csound-generated music for which the artist
>owns
>the .csd and the audio output but can't legally share required sample
>libraries for others to run that source code, because of having
>commercially licensed the samples - as is the case with some of my own
>music?  (for example,
>http://audio.northcoastsynthesis.com/index.php?t=whose_is_the_world )
>
>--
>Matthew Skala
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

briandc
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Thank you, Luis! I can't wait to try out this code. Additive synthesis has fascinated me a lot recently and this might help to spur me in the right direction to explore it futher. And Csound is the perfect app for doing it (in part considering how resource-intensive additive synthesis seems to be).

Thanks again!

Brian

 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:37:01 +0100, luis antunes pena wrote:

Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís

 

 

 

Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.
I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.
Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

genell
This really is a masterful piece of music! I enjoy it immensely! I have dabbled a little with the addsynth opcode but to get from that to this seems incomprehensible to me...

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Luis! I can't wait to try out this code. Additive synthesis has fascinated me a lot recently and this might help to spur me in the right direction to explore it futher. And Csound is the perfect app for doing it (in part considering how resource-intensive additive synthesis seems to be).

Thanks again!

Brian

 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:37:01 +0100, luis antunes pena wrote:

Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís

 

 

 

Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.
I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.
Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

hlolli
I would call this [OT] not [OT] :-)

amazing the textures you can get from 32 sinewaves, I enjoyed it a lot!

On 31 January 2018 at 12:49, Anders Genell <[hidden email]> wrote:
This really is a masterful piece of music! I enjoy it immensely! I have dabbled a little with the addsynth opcode but to get from that to this seems incomprehensible to me...

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Luis! I can't wait to try out this code. Additive synthesis has fascinated me a lot recently and this might help to spur me in the right direction to explore it futher. And Csound is the perfect app for doing it (in part considering how resource-intensive additive synthesis seems to be).

Thanks again!

Brian

 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:37:01 +0100, luis antunes pena wrote:

Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís

 

 

 

Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.
I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.
Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

hlolli
i see now that the sentence “I would call this....” in my last reply makes absolutely no sense.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 at 15:42, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would call this [OT] not [OT] :-)

amazing the textures you can get from 32 sinewaves, I enjoyed it a lot!

On 31 January 2018 at 12:49, Anders Genell <[hidden email]> wrote:
This really is a masterful piece of music! I enjoy it immensely! I have dabbled a little with the addsynth opcode but to get from that to this seems incomprehensible to me...

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Luis! I can't wait to try out this code. Additive synthesis has fascinated me a lot recently and this might help to spur me in the right direction to explore it futher. And Csound is the perfect app for doing it (in part considering how resource-intensive additive synthesis seems to be).

Thanks again!

Brian

 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:37:01 +0100, luis antunes pena wrote:

Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís

 

 

 

Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.
I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.
Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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Re: [Csnd] [OT] Csound Music Additive Synthesis

Oeyvind Brandtsegg-2
Oh, I thought you meant [OT] as in On Topic, not [OT] as in Off Topic, and then indeed it makes sense.... It's not OT, it's OT!

On Jan 31, 2018 21:49, "Hlöðver Sigurðsson" <[hidden email]> wrote:
i see now that the sentence “I would call this....” in my last reply makes absolutely no sense.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 at 15:42, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would call this [OT] not [OT] :-)

amazing the textures you can get from 32 sinewaves, I enjoyed it a lot!

On 31 January 2018 at 12:49, Anders Genell <[hidden email]> wrote:
This really is a masterful piece of music! I enjoy it immensely! I have dabbled a little with the addsynth opcode but to get from that to this seems incomprehensible to me...

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, Luis! I can't wait to try out this code. Additive synthesis has fascinated me a lot recently and this might help to spur me in the right direction to explore it futher. And Csound is the perfect app for doing it (in part considering how resource-intensive additive synthesis seems to be).

Thanks again!

Brian

 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:37:01 +0100, luis antunes pena wrote:

Thanks for all your nice messages. I'm glad you liked and I hope this can help other csounders making music.

I post here the version of the last performance I gave with this instrument with four channels. You'll need a midi controller to hear anything. These are the parameters I worked with and the midi mapping :

;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl
ctrlinit 1, 7, 0    ;global amp
ctrlinit 1, 10, 64    ;amp single oscil
ctrlinit 1, 12, 20    ;pitch [Hz]
ctrlinit 1, 13, 127    ;freq tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 13, 2    ;amp tremolo
ctrlinit 2, 7, 0    ;factor LF
ctrlinit 2, 10, 0    ;random freq
ctrlinit 3, 7, 0    ;factor HF
ctrlinit 3, 10, 0    ;factor freq HF
ctrlinit 4, 7, 2    ;random amp
ctrlinit 5, 7, 30    ;spectral amp weight
ctrlinit 8, 7, 32    ;rev amp
;---------------------------------    init midi ctrl

Best,

Luís

 

 

 

Am 30.01.18 um 23:03 schrieb Arthur Hunkins:
Luis, I am fascinated by this piece, and would very much like to see your .csd. Particularly I'd like to explore your control mechanisms for the 32 waves.
I like the way your textures ebb and flow and transform. My favorite portions of the piece are the beginning and the end, as well as where you transition into noisy sonorities. Fine work.
Art Hunkins


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM, luis antunes pena <[hidden email]> wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/antunespena/etuede-in-granit

Some years ago I programmed an instrument in csound to better understand the additive synthesis. The instrument works live with 32 sine waves each one of them is individually controlled in amplitude and frequency deviation from a base frequency. This is a recording of an improvisation with this instrument. If someone is interested I'll post the csd file. Hope you enjoy.
Best,
Luís
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